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Survey Measuments

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This may be beyond a support question but any ideas would be appreciated. I'm trying to replicate a land survey diagram that shows land lines as compass measurements in degrees and feet. For example,
N 34.6169 E (107.18 ft)
S 80.267 E (207.84 ft)
N 45.0125 E (91.88 ft)
N 43.75 E (96.03)
N 20.094 E (81.44 ft)
N 45.1139 E (89.53 ft)

I've tried numerous ways to use HighDesign angle functions to lay down the lines but the results have been very confusing. Likely it's my ignorance of surveying concepts or not understanding how HD reports angles. I'm about to give up. That would be a shame since HD should be just to tool to use.

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Did you check the "Bearings" option in the preferences?
Try this:
  • 1. Go to HighDesign > Preferences.
    2. Click the Units panel.
    3. In the Linear Units group, set the drawing units to Decimal Feet.
    4. In the "Angles" group, set Angles to decimal (0.0000°), Precision to "4 (.0001), click the Bearings button and set the direction of the North. In most topographic maps it is 90 degrees.
Close the Preferences, and in the main window activate the line tool, click on the drawing, push the "A" key, enter the first angle, i.e. "N 34.6169 E" and press Return, push "L", enter the distance (107.18') and press Return.

This makes a line directed to N 34.61.69 E and 107.18ft long.

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Thanks. The bearing function is outstanding. Kind of hidden though. Quick Ref and manual is not too good for this.

I'm liking HD more and more. AND the support and late in the evening in Italy.

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You said:
"enter the first angle, i.e. "N 34.6169 E" and press Return, push "L", enter the distance (107.18') and press Return. This makes a line directed to N 34.61.69 E and 107.18ft long."

I had coverted my bearing from degrees, min, sec to decimal to get the 34.6169 value. The original bearing is 34 degrees, 36 min, 59 sec. Your comment above states a bearing "N 34.61.69 E". I'm confused.

When I enter N 34.61.69 E the A function at the botton right corner of the HD window shows N 34 37' 1" E. When I enter N 34.6169 E the A shows N30 54' 42" E. Does this happen to you also? Is it an issue of precision? I'd like to see the value of what I enterted verified on the window.

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hkhamilton wrote:I had coverted my bearing from degrees, min, sec to decimal to get the 34.6169 value. The original bearing is 34 degrees, 36 min, 59 sec. Your comment above states a bearing "N 34.61.69 E". I'm confused.
Sorry, that was a typo: The last line should be "34.6169", not "34.61.69".
When I enter N 34.61.69 E the A function at the botton right corner of the HD window shows N 34 37' 1" E. When I enter N 34.6169 E the A shows N30 54' 42" E. Does this happen to you also? Is it an issue of precision? I'd like to see the value of what I enterted verified on the window.
You can choose to enter angles as deg, min, sec or as decimal values. Simply go to the Preferences and select the one you need.
"N 34.6169 E" gets converted to "N 30° 54' 42'' E" because you are attempting to enter a decimal value when the app is really expecting degrees, minutes and seconds, so it interprets it as "34.6169 degrees, 0 mins, 0 sec", which is different from 30° 54' 42''.
Hope that's clear enough. Angle conversions and bearings are not the funniest things in the world. :)

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Post by hkhamilton »

One final coment. I figured out my problem was that the "syntax" for entering bearing needs to N 34 36 59 E not N 34.36.59 E or N 34 36' 59" E (since the degree character in not easily found on keyboard). The Manual should include a bearing examples.

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curved site lines...

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Hi guys,

Just neede to use this post... great.

One other thing though, which I am pretty desperate to know; what about when some of the lines are curved? Like: R=330', A=11°37'30", L=66.96.

Thanks.

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curved lines work the same way... use the L, A, etc commands to describe the curved line and it should work.
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Post by macitect »

Thanks for the help Alex, but I am still a little puzzled... and perhaps I should wait until I get home but, which command do I use? I was clicking on circle and then using the curved line by three points method. Is that the correct way or how would I draw curved lines with this info?

thanks again,
derek

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I believe I did it using center point method, where L would indicate the radius, A indicates the angle from start to end. Then you'll have to drag the completed arc into the correct location using its endpoints.... maybe three point arc will follow the same routine.

I'll have to try it when I get home too... double life of one job on windows machines and the other on the mac. Too bad there's not a mac emulator to run tiger
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Post by macitect »

So you do the 9-5 windows thing too, eh? I have gone to your website, I thought you just did the solo gig.

A mac emulator would be nice, but I think it would be even nicer to just work in officed that use mac!!!

cheers. I will test your advice when i get home.

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Post by macitect »

Hi ybalx,

so your method worked for me, the only problem I still can't figure out is controlling which part of the circle my line actually begins. If I want an angle of around 11~{}­¯][¶§µ¾½¼³²¦¬¤¢¢£@±\
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Post by macitect »

Hi ybalx,

so your method worked for me, the only problem I still can't figure out is controlling which part of the circle my line actually begins. If I want an angle of around 11}{~´­¯µ[/b]

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Post by macitect »

Hi ybalx,

so your method worked for me, the only problem I still can't figure out is controlling at which point in the circle my line actually begins. If I want an angle of around 11deg how do I get it to start near the bottom instead of the top for instance...?

thanks again for your help.

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